Introduction
During my years on
TOR, I have seen countless scam attempts and many sad faces of those who
were ripped off. Let's face it. Here in the deep web, scammers will
always exist, plain and simple. no matter how hard we all try to bust
them down, their presence will always remain. You will find them on
forums, their own websites, and throughout all major and established
dark markets. Now that we all have accepted this sad issue, let's
discuss the many methods to help prevent you from falling into this
trap.
First and foremost, the number one rule when doing business
on the deep web is to always trust your instinct. I'm sure all of you
heard this old saying before: if it's too good to be true, it probably
is. I know it's very cliche, but it still holds a lot of merit. Most
scam victims fail to follow this quote and go with their impulses
instead. They see a product or deal at a astounding price, that they
don't think of anything else but having the items in their hands. It's
like being hypnotized in a sense. Don't worry, I'm not talking down on
anyone. It's human nature to follow with impulses. Just remember that
next time you see an amazing deal, think it through and see if this can
be realistic.
Now that we covered the golden rule. I'm now going
to discuss the different types of scam methods that are present thought
the deep web. Please post if I left anything out or if you have any
questions or comments.
The Hidden Wiki (THW)
THW
is probably one of the oldest sites still in existance on TOR. It is
more then likely one of the first sites many people new to TOR visit. It
can be quite an amazing discovery seeing all the differnt businesses
selling drugs, weapons, fraud items, stolen electronics, etc. For a lack
of words, it's really awesome to see that you now have access to pretty
much anything you want when you didn't prior to setting up TOR.
Now
the problem here is that THW can be moderated by pretty much anyone who
has registered an account. Some of the nefarious Hidden Wiki staff are
very aware of the many new comers to th deep web. This is why it is safe
to that just about every commercial site on THW are scams. Plan and
simple. Even legitimate and well known markets featured on THW are more
then likely phishing sites set up to steal your account information.
Long story short, AVOID the hidden wiki when searching for market links.
Example of Phishing site for SR 2.0 (DO NOT LOGIN!): http://e5wvymnx6bx5euvy.onion/ -best way to tell is that the URL is obviously the wrong one.
If you need a link to a market site, visit the subreddit DarkNetMarkets
(http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/) or the Deep Dot Web
(http://www.deepdotweb.com/).
These sites provide legitimate market links that are never altered. If
anyone knows of any other sites new comers can use to find legit links,
please toss them up.
Non-Market Commercial Sites
Just
like the ones listed on THW, pretty much all of the small sites that
sell products and services are all pretty much scams. The only exception
are sites that operated by established market vendors who are
well-recognized and can be verified with their PGP. If anyone needs help
verifying someones PGP, you are more then welcome to message me and
I'll be glad to help. Plus, there are a few sites that catalog vendor
PGPs and offer verification as well. I'll show you some examples of
sites and how to tell the are rippers.
Green Notes Counter: http://67yjqewxrd2ewbtp.onion/
Here
is a site that sells counterfeit coins. Sadly they do not accept escrow
and give the typical scammer reason that they do not trust escrow
sites. But for some ill-logic reason, it's okay to trust them. Lol -yeah
right.
Double Your BTC: http://jmkxdr4djc3cpsei.onion/
Here
is a site that "promises" to return to you the double amount of BTC you
send them. Let's think about this, who on earth will give you free
money? No one that's who. If they have such a wonderful method on
doubling bitcoin, then why would they share it and not just keep it
themselves to get rich? Well, actually they do have a method for getting
rich, it's by stealing others coin.
Carder's Paradise: http://cardsv4kovqmjr37.onion/
Oh
wow! a site that sells cloned debit cards with a pin# so that you can
just easily walk to any ATM and cash it out. Just like with the double
your btc service, who in their right mind would give away free money?
Why couldn't they just keep the cards and cash them out themselves?
These are the question you have to ask and the true simple answer is
that they don't have any cards. They just want your coin and bolt.
People's Drug Store: http://newpdsuslmzqazvr.onion/
Just
another rip-off site that offers no escrow protection and just wants
steal from you. same with the other mentioned sites, they state that
once payment is received, they will mail you the shipping information. I
hate to say it but you will be waiting a long time for that info.
IMPORTANT: Keep and eye out with other sites using the same format. They
are hosted by a pseudo-organization called
TorShops. Avoid all of their sites at all costs!
iPhones for 50%: http://iphoneavzhwkqmap.onion/
I'm
just gonna say it, all of these electronic stores are scams. Never have
I seen a legit ones. Either they feed you a line of shit on why they
don't escrow and there are ones that offer a fake "escrow" service. The
sites with "escrow accepted" will usually send you a link to a site you
probably never heard of and ask you do depoist money and simply release
it when you get your item. Sadly, the electronic site most likely owns
that escrow site and will just take the btc and avoid your emails.
I
won't go into a lot of detail but the self-operated sites that sell
guns and offer hitman services. They are all scams plain and simple. The
solution is to just stick to the established markets and use their
escrow system. Remember, escrow is the main line of defense that
protects you from losing your coin. Always use it.
Scammers on Commercial Markets
This
section will cover how to spot and deal with rippers that use
established markets to host their scam. Some of them demand FE on
everything, others will appear to have outstanding feedback, and there
are even some that offer escrow too. Crazy, I know. So here are the ways
to spot them and some tactics they use to steal your coins.
The
first and easy ones to spot are the brand new vendors to a site with no
reputation and off the bat request FE. They either sell a great variety
of different products (red flag) at great price hoping to grab as many
customers as possible. Or, they have a few big and expensive products
and wait until someone takes the bait. when you spot these people,
question them on why they don't accept escrow. The most common replies
scammers give are "they don't trust escrow" or "BTC is too
unpredictable". Whatever excuse they give you, just walk away. I know,
that's a killer deal they offer, but wouldn't you rather be at peace of
mind? There are plenty of legit vendors that accept escrow. Don't risk
it and go with them. I forgot to mention, always check their feedback
and the forums to find any reviews the vendor may have. This will give
you better assurance whether or not to deal with the vendor.
A lot
of the time. you will find scammers with amazing feedback. How could
this be? Well, they use the tactic called feedback stacking. This is
when a scammer registers numerous buyer accounts and buy from themselves
and leave amazing feedback. Here is what to look for when spotting
padded feedback: numerous complete orders on the same day, price is
extremely low or item was deleted, same username or same comments are
used over and over again.
Example: if you have Pandora, login and check out this seller's profile (
Note: this is not an attack on Pandora, it was just an example I found. These are found on every market. Sorry Pandora)
http://pandorajodqp5zrr.onion/profile/c9b9f96216d1eb17ab9b88348bbb5d05
Scroll
all the way down and look at the feedback (long way down. seller's way
of hiding it). Loot at that. This is probably the most obvious padded
feedback ever seen. Some are more clever then that, but they always slip
up by showing a pattern. You'll notice it when you come across it.
When
you order from a vendor and the item is in escrow, make sure you note
the shipping time. A lot of rippers will set a short shipping time
hoping that you won't notice so that the order will auto-finalize. Just
remember when funds are released whether after FE'ing or the order
auto-finalized, the first thing that vendor will do is quickly withdraw
the coin to their wallet. It is now out of the staff's hands to recover
your money.
One final note, be careful when posting in the wanted
or buyer request section of a market's forum. This is where a lot of rip
offs occur. You may get plenty of PMs from people who aren't even a
vendor saying they can help you out. Just remember to tell them HELL NO
and wait for a verified vendor to reply. Because you know what's gonna
if you decide to follow through with that PM offer.
Well this is
what I got so far. Pretty long-winded I know. Please feel free to ask
question or toss in any extra info I forgot to discuss. Stay safe out
there everyone and remember that golden rule: if it's too good to be
true, it probably is
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Part 2: Vendor Protection against Scam Attempts
Being
a vendor myself, I can fully understand and sympathize for all the hard
work and business management they must go through. Albeit these
instances are less common, they still do happen and pretty much any
vendor whose been in the game long is more than likely to have any of
the following occur.
Buyer disputes order stating that it is not what they expected or item did not arrive even though it did
As
I stated, there are far more awesome and honest buyers than bad apples.
But sadly, it does happen mainly with either low life's, or kids
thinking they can pull a fast one. I cannot stress this enough, when
creating a new listing be sure to give as much detail as possible. This
will prevent any confusion and if a dispute occurs, you can refer the
buyer and staff telling them that sold product is in accordance with the
description. Plus, when you have 50 customers before them saying they
were satisfied with the item received, you will have much higher chances
winning a dispute.
When a buyer claim the package is a no-show,
make sure you do either of the following to prevent this. Place tracking
on all of your items that you ship. For security, try not to give it
out unless it is necessary. This is great proof to show staff that you
did indeed ship out the item. If you do not use tracking, make sure it
is known in your profile that this is the case and you cannot give
refunds on lost packages. It would be to the buyers discretion whether
or not to order.
Buyer Threatens to Leave Negative Feedback Unless Given a Refund
I've
actually had this happen to me. This was a plain and simple case that
he was looking for free stuff and wanted to be an ass and go this route.
It really frustrated me because I was very nice and polite to the dude
and he decided to pull this shit on me. Well, I handled it in a
professional manner and backed off. This is what I did and what you can
do too in this situation. I basically called his bluff. I explained to
him that I have 40+ customers before him (which is true) buy the same
product and every single one of them was completely satisfied. Given
that information, I told him that I wasn't going to give him a refund,
and to go ahead and leave the negative feedback if you wish.
If he
had left the negative feedback, I would've retorted that this customer
was just a troll looking for free stuff, and given my positive track
record with this item I did not feel a refund with in order. He never
did leave the feedback and released the escrow, which I'm happy
Also, depending on your market, staff will remove negative feedback if
it was unjustified. Just report to staff and see what they say.
I
actually know a vendor who was in the same situation. He actually
refunded the buyer and the asshole buyer still left negative feedback.
Man, did that vendor throw a fit. Thankfully the staff took care of it.
Competitor Attacks
Occasionally,
who will have a unethical and disgruntled vendor that is jealous of
your booming business and wants to do something to sabotage it. A lot of
the times they will make multiple buyer accounts, buy the cheapest
product you sell, and then turn around and either call you a scammer or
the product and service was bad. If you are a victim of this, report it
to the staff and your customers as soon as possible. Let them all know
about the situation and given your track record, they will be
understanding. Most customers can determine if you have either a troll
or competitor attacking you and will not think bad of you with the given
false feedback. Often staff will recognize the attack and ban the shill
accounts and remove the feedback. It's sad to see vendors sink that low
to do such an attack.
Trolls/Disgruntled customers
Often
times you will come across these when when discussing products and
prices about your product. What generally happens is that you'll get a
buyer that is not happy with your price and then offers some low-ball
figure, or you can have buyers that want a freebie tossed their way. You
tell them no and the price stands as is. Most are understanding of
this, while you do have some that act like children and throw a temper
tantrum because they cannot get their way. They end up going to the
forums and posting false statements calling you a scammer and that your
service is terrible, blah, blah, blah. To handle this, just politely and
professionally explain the situation that you never even done business
with this clown and how on earth could you be a scammer when no coin was
exchanged? Also explain that their behavior is ridiculous and just
wanted something cheap or free. Then everybody will realize what an ass
this buyer just made of themselves and will easily join your side on
this situation.
Well that's all I have for right now. If any
vendor would like to add on and share any of their experiences, I would
love to hear them. Thanks for reading and stay safe everybody